Random thoughts on the topic we all love to hate: the graphics card industry.
...and I mean it.
Published on June 21, 2005 By Kombatant In
As I said in my previous entry, I got a new PC recently. Its configuration is as follows:
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3200+ // Motherboard: DFI LanParty SLI-DR // Graphics: Sapphire Radeon X800 // RAM: Corsair XMS4000 (1GB) // PSU: Thermaltake Silent PurePower 480W // Monitor: Dell 2405fpw 24" TFT

Pretty good machine I might say, and it has room for improvement. I chose the X800 because I wanted to get something which will hold me until the new R520 cards show up, and would be cheap enough. I am very pleased with its performance, and I reckon I made the right choice about the components.

So my old PC (CPU: AMD AthlonXP 3000+ // Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7N400-L // Graphics: Crucial Radeon 9700 Pro // RAM: Corsair XMS3500 (512 MB) // PSU: QTec 400W // Monitor: Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454) is now at my parents' house. I got a X800 XL from work yesterday (AGP) and installed it there. Man, the PC just got transformed into a serious gaming machine! I mean, I only have Juiced and UEFA Champions League installed for now (I formatted two days ago and installed Windows again), but playing at 1600x1200 with max AA and AF sure is satisfying. It's a bit strange too, seeing my old PC performing better in games than my new one

My point is simple: for those of you who are on a budget and don't want to change their platform, don't. The new generation cards that will be announced within this summer (with nVidia doing that tomorrow, ATI will follow suit sometime before the end of summer) will support AGP as well (as far as I recall both companies have directly or indirectly confirmed it) so you will be able to game happily with your current specs

Next update will probably be in a few days, with my take on nVidia's newest baby

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on Aug 18, 2005
I put my system together 2 years ago and it still works with any game. Albatron Geforce4 Ti4280 128mgs video Card


No it won't.. You won't be playing Battlefield 2, War Worlds, and several other recently released games because they don't support non-DX9 cards. In fact, about 26 games coming out in the next 8 months won't work on your machine.

Without a DX9 compliant card within the next few months, you'll find few new games that you can run. Sorry to break the bad news to you.

on Dec 21, 2005
i have a 6600gt agp 8x and i can run f.e.a.r. full settings and highest res ecsept the ultra settings like soft shadowing and i get 40 fps average and i only have a 3000+ amd 64 but i think the 4 gigs of ram helps, and i oc my card to 585mhz core and 1190mhz mem. but i see no need to upgrade to pci-e just yet. altho it would be nice to aford it but seeing as im 17 with no job and a car to pay for. i dont think ill be upgrading anytime soon
on Aug 28, 2006
I run an Athlon64 3000+ with 1 Gb ram and an overclocked vanilla 6600 and i have been enjoying Prey with all but the very highest settings enabled ,still alot of games it wont run well and i have to say one the most compelling reasons to upgrade to pciXpress is the ability to run SATA300 hard disks ! but I'm holding out to upgrade until UT2007 appears
on Aug 28, 2006
Thread's a bit dated...
on Jan 13, 2007


ATI X800 is the best!

on Jan 18, 2007
ATI X800 the best?

Nah..

I've just binned mine and put in an X1950 AGP.

Now the X1950 is a good card for AGPX8. It'll keep you going for a couple of years.
on Mar 01, 2007
AGP is not death. PCI-E is alive and kicking and I think that the technology of AGP is a bit of sleeping    I have a PCI-E card and its faster than my previous AGP card for sure.  
on Mar 01, 2007
10 pays you 5 that before too long there will be a new AGP architecture that will be

faster then pci-express, AGP is not dying it just taking a nap, my card is AGP and i havent come across any games that i cannot play yet, sure some run a little slower

but dropping the resolution brings them back to life, i am one of those peopole who think that playing a game at 1024 x 768 is as perfectly acceptable as 1600 x 1200

peace and long life

on Mar 06, 2007
AGP is dead. As far as I know, none of the newest video cards (gaming cards that is) are produced int he AGP format. AGP boards will still be offered for some time though, but it's just a waste looking forward. If you want to upgrade, but are not ready for a full system upgrade, I would suggest just getting a faster processor. That board should be able to support a much faster processor. That graphics card is probably hamprered by your current CPU anyway.

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on Mar 19, 2007
agp lives...in the motherboard i just got (it will be running an x700pro)


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for the guy above i wouldn't say its dead just yet...if the r600 doesn't have a single agp card then i guess it will die in about 3 years but so far most cards have an alternative agp offering (for a little more, but its still supported)
on Jun 25, 2007
Might not be a bad idea to think about going to one of the cheap opteron dual cores now since they have dropped soo low in price.
on Jul 31, 2007
Who declared AGP as dead? Aha, it"s not so easy to declare something as completely dead or extinguished. AGP it still sold everywhere, though the price is pretty low. As long as AGP still work with Sli.

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on Aug 19, 2007
AGP may not be dead yet, but it in its terminal phase - inevitable, as all technologies become overtaken in time.

Its good some attention is still payed to it though, just because it has no long term future doesnt mean it has no place now. The vast majority dont need top end go-faster cards, and buying an updated AGP card can be very cost effective if your mother board has AGP slots. The vast majority are not gamers or into serious graphics, and for them buying a $500+ graphics card is crazy, they would be candidates for the funny farm. Its equally nuts buying a new PC etc if an AGP upgrade meets your needs for another two or three years.

Eventually of course it no longer becomes economic for manufacturers to carry on, as other technologies will give better long term returns on Capital. Thats life, then its time for a new PC, or a second hand one that your hard core gaming friend is about to dump after 2 years use.
on Sep 04, 2007
Of course AGP still exist and wouldn't be dead for a long time in the furture. I'm looking forward to its update. I could be able to get a PC without finacial press because AGP platform' price is getting cheaper and cheaper.

arlen

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